This continues the story of Thomas Yale started yesterday. On Sept. 6, 1664 John Cooper presented the inventory of the estate of John and Elinor Vinton. The court was concerned for the welfare of their children, also John and Elinor. The court asked who they would like to be guardian or overseers of their estate. They requested John Cooper and Thomas Yale and the court approved it. Then the court concerned the disposition of the children, now orphans. The court received a letter from Purchase Clarke, who was at the ironworks in Lynn, MA that was read and kept on file.
It said he had much affection for the children and that they formerly lived in Lynn and had other fiends there. He promised to take care of them and see that they were disposed of for their good. John Cooper said to the court that Purchase was an able man and of good repute for godliness. They court approved that the children be sent to Purchase and ordered to Thomas Yale and John Cooper to see that the children were comfortably provided for the voyage there. The record said that later word was received by Patrick, formerly servant to Purchase that they children were lovingly received by Purchase and well disposed for their good.
Thomas held many offices of trust with honor. He left an estate of £479. Thomas and Mary had eight children, all born in New Haven:
1. John, born about 1646; died Dec 16, 1711 in New Haven, married Rebecca Mix (1657-1734) about 1688, they had at least 4 children: John (1694-1711), Elihu (1696-1748), Abigail (1697-1718), David (1699-1730). All were born in New Haven. John is listed as a Proprietor of New Haven, CT, in the Year 1685 (NEGHSR, vol. 1, pp. 157–8).
2. Thomas, born about 1648; died Jan 26, 1735/36 in Wallingford, CT. Thomas was one of the original 39 signers of the Wallingford Agreement in 1668. He married Rebeccah Gibbard (1650-1687) on Dec.11, 1667 in New Haven, they had eight children: Hannah (1669-1743), Rebecca (1671-), Elizabeth (1673-), Theophilus (1675-1760), Thomas (1678-1750), Nathaniel (1681-1711), Mary (1684-1703), John (1687-1782). The first 3 were born in New Haven and the last 5 in Wallingford, CT. After Rebecca died, he married Sarah Nash (1649-1716). Finally, after Sarah died, he married Mary Beach, the widow of Benjamin Beach on July 31, 1716.
3. Mary, born Oct 26, 1650 in New Haven and died in New Haven in 1710. She married Joseph Ives on Jan. 2, 1672. The had 10 children: Joseph (1673-1751), Mary (1674), Mary (1675-1712), Samuel (1672-1726), Martha (1678-after 1717), Lazarus (1680-1703), Thomas (1683-1767), Abigail (1685), John (1686-1690), Ebenezer (1692-1759).
4. Nathaniel, born Jan 3, 1651/52 in New Haven; died Oct 29, 1730 in North Haven, married Ruth Bishop (1664-1739) on Oct. 11, 1692 in New Haven (see Bishop family in Vol. 2). He is listed as a Proprietor of New Haven in 1685 and was granted 7 ¼ acres of land in the third division in 1680. Nathaniel was on the original committee to organize parish life in North Haven in 1716, along with the brothers Joseph and Samuel Ives and James Bishop. He was also on the 1717 committee to select the minister and the minister’s rate (or tax) in 1718. He was the first moderator of the parish meetings and he later led the movement, backed by Joseph Ives (his brother–in-law) and others, to dismiss the minister, Mr. Wetmore, for views too close to the Church of England. Nathaniel and Ruth had at least 4 children: David (1693-1757), James (1695-1700), Anne (1697-1744), Nathaniel (1702-1746). All were born in New Haven.
5. Martha, born May 6, 1655 in New Haven, CT; died Jan 15, 1669/70 in New Haven, CT.
6. Abigail, born May 5, 1660 in New Haven, CT; died Feb 28, 1708/09 in New Haven, CT. She married Major Moses Mansfield (1640-). They had no children but Moses had nine children with his first wife, Mercy Glover (1643-) .
7. Hannah, born Jul 6, 1662 in New Haven, CT; died Feb 10, 1743/44 in New Haven, CT. She married Enos Talmage (1656-1690) on May 9, 1682. They had four children: Mary (1682-1735), Sarah (1684-1715), Mehitebel (1686-1750), Thomas (1688-1766). All were born in New Haven. Then she married Samuel Bishop on Nov. 14, 1695. They had seven children: Hannah (1696-1719), Samuel (1698-1779), Ann (1700), Job (1702-1787), Elizabeth (1704-1734), Dinah (1706), Yale (1708). All were born in New Haven.
8. Elizabeth, born Jan 29, 1666/67 in New Haven, CT; died Sep 19, 1702 in New Haven, CT. She married Joseph Pardee of East Haven on Jan 30, 1688 in New Haven, CT. They had six children: John (1689), Enos (1691-1771), Joseph (1693-1762), Thomas (1695), John (1697-1766), Mary (1700-1758). All were born in New Haven.
See - Yale, Rodney Horace, Yale Genealogy and History of Wales, 1908 where some of the information for England and Wales was taken – after placed on the Gilbert family history web site.
I am the grandson ten nine times removed of John Vinton,the younger, mentioned in your entry on March 29,2007 concerning Captain Thomas Yale (1619-1683) Part Two. John and Elinor were the eldest of seven children of John and "Elinor" Vinton. I am happy to report that John Jr. lived to the ripe old age of 77. And that Elinor married in 1666 and had 7 children between 1676 and 1688. The third child, Blaise, born in 1654 died in 1716. I have not researched the other four children. I know that John Vinton , the father, came to New Haven in 1655/56 to work at the ironworks on Lake Saltonstall. He and his wife both died on the same day, August 3, 1664 in New Haven. Their deaths were untimely as evidenced by their children being orphaned and John being only 44. Why they died on the same day is unknmown to me at this point. Perhaps you can shed some light on the subject or point me in the right direction. Thank you
Posted by: Russell Vinton Davis | October 11, 2007 at 11:02 PM
Russell- Thanks so much for the additional information on John Vinton, I obtained the information on John Vinton and Thomas Yale from the New Haven Town Records 1662-1684 (listed in my sources). I obtained access to this book at the New England Historic Genealogical Society in Boston. Copies are likely at other libraries as well. I would look there for more information on John Vintom. Good luck and let me know if you find anything. Bill
Posted by: bill ives | October 12, 2007 at 08:55 PM
John Vinton "of Lynn" , the first immigrant, was recruited in England as a skilled iron worker by John Wintrop, Jr to manage the "finery" at the Iron Works at Lynn (now Saugus Iron Works National Historic Site). The non religious iron workers were often at odds with the puritans and vinton's wife was fined for cursing.
He apparently followed Wintrop Jr to New Haven and died there as a young man with many small children. The orphan children were sent back to Lynn to the iron works where they probably served some sort of apprentiship at the iron works under the Leonards.
I am intersested in the court records from new haven. Sept 6th 1664,. The full transcript. I am descendant of his son Blaise, who served in King Phillips War and was a survivor of Bloody Brook.
If you have the sept 6 1664 transcript please contact me.
Posted by: Gregg Bailey | June 05, 2009 at 11:12 PM
Gregg - I read the transcripts at the Peabody Library in Salem. They are also at eh NEHGS in Boston. Thanks so much for your additional input. I went to the Iron Works. It is very interesting. Bill
Posted by: bill Ives | June 06, 2009 at 08:27 AM