William Ives (1607-1648)

Captain William Ives (1) is the starting point for this genealogy series. I think the best guess is that William was born in 1607 in Norfolk, England. Some genealogy sites list him as born in 1621. Here is another list that agrees with the 1607 birth date. If the 1621 birth was the case he would have come to Boston on the Truelove in 1635 (documented fact) at age 14 by himself and then gone to be a co-founder and property holder in New Haven at age 17. Not impossible but less likely. Also, there was a William Ives listed as a member of the same London parish, St. Stephens of Coleman Street, as John Davenport, the first minister in New Haven prior to this trip (Caulder, 1936). That Willliam Ives would not have been born in 1621. So I feel more comfortable with with 1607 date reported at several sites. There is no birth record so this is still speculation.

William arrived in the Boston area by himself in 1635 at age 28, on ship Truelove two years before Davenport and the main party of New Haven settlers came to Boston on the Hector.

He first lived in Watertown. MA (it could be in what is now Cambridge, MA). On March 30, 1638 he left Boston to help found a new colony on Long Island Sound. This party became the founders of New Haven on April 15, 1638. In June 4, 1639 they established the first civil government and William Ives is listed in the original New Haven Civil Compact as one of 63 signers of “Fundamental Agreement of Quinnipiac” (now New Haven).

William Ives was allotted a total of 18 acres in several parcels. His house was at 72-160 Congress Street (at the corner with what is now Hill Street) and his occupation is listed as farmer. In 1638 his estate was valued at 25 pds. and grew to 98 pds. at the time of his death in 1648. His immediate neighbor was George Smith. The map dated 1641 by Brockett shows the nine square that were laid out and the sections of William Ives and others.

William Ives married shortly after arriving in New Haven but the identity of his wife is not clear. The Early List of Estates published by the New Haven Church in 1640 lists William Ives with two people in his household with an estate valued at 25 pds. The second person is most likely his wife. Many claim that she was Hannah Dickerman but I feel that there is more evidence against this claim than supporting it as I outlined in a series of posts (see Who was William Ives' Wife?).. William Ives was admitted as a member of the General Court in Dec, 25, 1641 and received the charge of freeman, along with Mr. Malbon. Ives (1928, p.78) quotes that to be designated a “freeman” a man had to “be possessed of thirty pounds proper personal estate, and be of honest and peaceable conversation.” Candidates had to appear in open meeting and were sworn in if found qualified. They were then required to attend all open town meetings and they had to pay two shillings if they could not present an acceptable excuse for being absent.

In the first division of land in 1641, William received 6 ¼ acres in the first division, 1 ¼ acres in the neck, and 2 ¼ acres in the meadow with 9 acres in the second division. See this 1641 map of New Haven. His annual tax for this land was 4 shillings and 9 pence. He is listed in attendance in the general court of July 1, 1644. At the court of Feb. 24, 1644, he and Edward Banister are listed as “viewers for the suburbs” (the suburbs were near his lot - see map of 1641). William also served as a soldier in the Colonial Militia as a Capitan in the New Haven Indian Alarms from 1642 – 1646. In 1644 he was fined 6 pence, along with John Cooper, James Bishop and many others, for not keeping his military equipment up. He and his wife had designated seats in the “meeting house” in 1646. He had seat 69 and she had seat 149 as the men and women sat separately. Around 1646, he purchased 4 ¼ acres of upland from Mr. Rudderford lying on the further side of the West River abutting the west meadow. William and “Goodwife Ives” had five children:

1. Phebe was baptized in New Haven on October 2, 1642. Her first marriage was to Joseph Potter (1635-1669) on 1660. Joseph was the son of William Potter, one of the signers of the 1639 New Haven Covenant. They had at least four children; Joseph (1661), Rebecca (1663-), Phebe (1665-1738), Joseph (1667-1742), her second marriage was to John Rose (-1722) in August, 1670. They had at least five children: Deborah (1671-), Sarah (1673-), Hannah (1676*-), John (1679), Daniel (1782/3), all born in Branford, CT. Phebe died on 1682 in Branford. After Phebe died, John married Elizabeth Curtis (1654-1719), widow of Mercy Moss. John had also married Deborah Usher before Phebe and they had one child, Elizabeth (1668-1690). Phebe’s mother, in her last recorded appearance before the New Haven court of August 5, 1662, apologized to the court for her “sin in meddling with that which did not concern her,” the execution of William Potter, and breaking the fourth commandment. William Potter was the father of Joseph and father-in-law of her first daughter, Phebe, so this may have given her reason to feel connected to the event.

2. John was baptized in New Haven on December 29, 1644, and died in 1682 in Wallingford, CT. He married Hannah Merriam (1651-1703) on Nov. 12, 1668. They had five children: John (1669-1747), Hannah (1672-1715), Joseph (1674-1755), Nathaniel (1677-1711), Gideon (1680-1767). All were born in Wallingford, CT.

3. daughter still born 1645

4. Martha was born in New Haven about 1646 and married Azariah Beach (1646-1696) in New Haven around 1675. They had seven children: Mary (1676-), Richard (1677-), Thomas (1679-1755), Benjamin (1682-1710), Hannah (1685-1769), John (1689-1713), Martha (1690-).

5. Joseph was born in New Haven about 1647, and died in North Haven on November 17, 1694. He married Mary Yale on Jan. 2, 1672 and they had ten children: Joseph (1673-1751), Mary (1674-1675), Mary (1675-1712), Samuel (1677-1726), Martha (1678-1713), Lazarus (1680-1703), Thomas (1683-1767), Abigail (1685), John (1686-1690), Ebenezer (1692-1759).

William Ives died in New Haven in the late spring of 1648 some time after he signed his will on April 3, 1648. Richard Miles and Roger Allen witnessed his will on that date and they also appraised his estate on June 8, 1648 after his death and placed the amount at 98 pounds, 4 shillings. They provided an inventory of the estate on September 22nd. It included the following:

“his wearing cloathes; one bed furniture to it; one trundle bed with bed & bolster; two cheats; one box; 3 pars of sheets; 2 pars pillow covers; 6 napkins; one board cloath; Table; stools & charis; old brass pot; Iron pot; Iron kettle; 2 skillets; 1 bake pan; a mortar & pestile; 1 skimmer; 2 ladels; warming pan; pewter; 2 candle sticks; wooden ware; one hower glass; 1 gridiron; 1 pr of bellowes; 1 pot; hooks, pair of hangers; frying pan, fire shovel & tongs; cookes ware; Muskit & sword; Bondoleers & Sheaff; working tools etc; 2 wheels; 1 sheepe & yeuss. Ye house’ home lot & all upland & meadow; 3 cowes, 2 oxen, 2 horses, 3 swine. Debts Matthew Molthrop owes to ye Estate.”

His will was probated in court on Nov. 7, 1648, later in the same day his widow married Dr. William Bassett. Richard Miles and Roger Allen testified that William Ives “was in a state fit to make this will & did make it.” In the will he designated his wife as the sole executor of his estate to be used to bring up his children until they came of age. When his oldest son. John, became twenty one he was to receive the house and land and when the other children became twenty they were to received one cow or the worth of a cow. In Feb. 6, 1649, William Bassett agreed in court to honor the will of William Ives. It is assumed he and his wife raised the four Ives children along the four they had together (see Bassett family). The family continued to live in the house of William Ives until it was sold in 1652 to the widow of Anthony Thompson. William Bassett placed eleven pounds worth of cattle as security for John Ives’ portion of the property. William Ives’ two sons, John and Joseph, went northward in 1670 and were among the original 39 signers of the Wallingford plantation agreement in 1668.

I will now look at the founding and early history of New Haven before going on to William's son, Joseph.

Comments

[Bill Ives]

Dan

You can click on her name and see what information is available. Bill

[DEBORAH DAMELIO]

It was also good to get the Atwater info, which had been elusive.
Thanks again for all the research work.

[Bill Ives]

Thanks for your comment. Glad it was helpful.

[dan ives]

I am searching for descendants of Eben and Caroline Ives of North Bend, NE. their oldest daughter was Katie Darling Ives who was my dad's sister. Her ggd was JoAnne Finn. My nos. are 870-449-2515 and 928-801-6216. I live in Arkansas.

[Bill Ives]

Dan Thanks for your comment and good luck with your search. Many people seem to read the blog so I hope that someone can help you. Bill

[Rodd Jones]

Re: Bob Davidson's post. I too have Martha Patsy Ives and Capt. William Ebenezer Brockett in my ancestry. I would like to contact him directly. Can you supply his contact information. Do you know how Martha might connect to William Ives? I have enjoyed reading the information on your blog. Are you related to composer Charles Ives and singer/actor Burl Ives? Finally, I was stationed forty+ years ago in the navy in Puerto Rico, with George Ives, a brilliant individual, an ubernerd, who also was a champion tennis player. I wish I could get in touch with him again. Best regards, Rodd

[Bill Ives]

Rodd

I am not sure which Bob Davidson post you refer to. There is not a comment by him on this post. i will be glad to let him know you are interested in contacting him once I located his comment and if his email address is connected to it, as it likely is.

[DAN IVES]

I am a direct descendant of William Ives. My grand parents were Eben & Caroline (Arnold ) IVES. Katie Darling Ives was their daughter and one of my aunts. My dad, Eben Albert was one of their sons. His sisters were, Anna Eliza, Nellie Jane, Carrie Bell and Daisy Mabel. His only brother was Edgar who had no children. These Ives farmed near North Bend, Nebraska. Circa 1870-1930

[DAN IVES]

MY name is Dan Ives, my phone number is 870 -49-2515. I am a descendant of Eben & Elizabeth Hull Ives, my great grandparents. Their son, Eben was my grandfather. My dad was Eben Albert Ives.

[Bill Ives]

Dan - Thanks for your input.

[Hilton T Mason Jr, From eastern North Carolina, now in Florida]

I am looking for a William Ives, born in Virginia, abt 1799.
His wife was Elizabeth. Childern: Virginia R born in 1842, Mary F, born in Portsmouth, Va. in 1846, Harriet born 1850 in Va. Mary F is my great grand mother.
Hilton T Mason Jr.

[Bill Ives]

Hilton - Thanks for your input. I am not familiar with this William Ives but hopefully one of the other readers will help you. Bill

[Deborah Glantz Hanna]

Thanks for the info. My Ives line is very confusing since my Ives and Halls intermarried.Both lines come in together at the Silas generation I believe...
William 1607
John 1644 and Hannah M.
John 1669 and Mary Gillette
John 1694 and Hannah Royce
John 1729 and Mary Hall
Titus 1782 and Lodema Yale
Silas 1811 and Elvira Hall
Edgar Van Buren 1839 and Florence Griffin
Ethel Florence 1892 and Charles Glantz
Malcolm Ives Glantz

[Dan Ives , poetoftheozarks@yahoo.com]

My phone # 870-449-2515. Would like to hear from Joanne FINN, I am Dan Ives, a nephew of Katie Darling Ives, the daughter of Eben Ives.

[Shad Howard]

My great grandfather was Howard S Ives. His grandfather was William W Ives born in New Haven
(1850-1934). His father was Walter W Ives. His obituary said he was a descendant of William Ives. Does anyone have more information.

[Bill Ives]

Shad - Thanks for your input. I do not know anything more than what is on the blog but hopefully some one will answer.

[Dennis Simpson]

William Ives
Martha (Ives) Beach
Hannah (Beach) Sanford
Desire (Sanford) Cooper
Sarah (Cooper) Frost
Sarah (Frost) Perry
Marietta (Perry) Pierson
Ruth Harriet (Pierson) McIntosh
Clarissa Erica (McIntosh) Brower
Lillian Mae (Brower) Triggs
Cleo Ellen (Triggs) Saso
Lillian Nadine (Saso) Simpson
Dennis William Simpson (me)

[Bill Ives]

Dennis - Thanks for your input.

[Thomas Haunton]

Good evening. Just stumbled across your blog while doing my first genealogical search since the early 1970s, before it became a bit easier to do this research. I am a descendent of both William Ives (my great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather)and John Davenport (my great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather, both connected with early New Haven. The connection between the families didn't occur until the birth of my great-great grandmother Adella Ives in 1850.) A portion of my research was started by my great-great uncle Charles Walter Ives (born 1858)from a notebook he assembled in 1938 when he was 80 years old, after many years of research. (Passed on to me by my grandfather.) CW Ives had the date of William Ives birth as 1607. I'm also related to Connecticut governor Roger Wolcott and Declaration of Independence signer Oliver Wolcott.

Guess I'll have to start going through my papers again and see what things have been found in the last forty odd years!

[Bill Ives]

Thomas. Thanks for your input. Please feel free to share any other discoveries.

[Sue Wemett]

I stand corrected on my comment, above, of 17 May 2009: "Bill, Do you find an Amos Ives, b. 1802 in CT, m. Lucy Hubbard in your genealogy? He is my great-great-great grandfather, father of Edwin Burke Ives of Niles, MI. Regards, Sue" Posted by: Sue Wemett | May 17, 2009 at 09:11 PM

I now have Abel Ives III 1802 CT - 1893 OH m. Lucy Hubbard as parents of Edwin Burke Ives 1832 OH - 1906 MI (grandfather of Cpt Edwin Burke Ives 1884-1958. Not sure how I got the Amos in there, sorry.

I'm looking for info and proof of the wife of Abel Ives Jr 1763-1821 as Betsey Burke and her year of birth and location as well as parents. Nobody has any consistent information on her. I had, and generally seen, Betsey Burke 1760 Brimfield, MA. Ancestry now has town birth records online which are showing an Elizabeth Burk b.1763 Brimfield, assuming our Betsey was actually born in Brimfield. There are no Betsey Burkes showing.

Similar issue with Abel Jr. There are several Abels baptized in CT, the first baptized 1763 as Abel son of Abel, but then another Abel is baptized in 1766 as Abel son of Abel, and again that year at home, an Abel son of Abel, stating he was in poor health. If these are the correct Abel Ives family, I read this as the first Abel Ives baby died, the next male was born in 1766 and his health was also poor, but lived. OTOH, I have no idea if this is the same Abel Ives family.

I appreciate your ideas.
Sue

[Kate]

I am the main part of the family tree now in this generation not a branch to this tree yes I’m only 13 but my grandfather is the main one today so thanks so much for letting me learn about some of my past family I find it amazing how people are searching so much for him.

[Mary Morgan]

Bill, Thank you for sharing the wonderful ancestry and history of William Ives. I visit it often, as I am descended from William as follows:
William
John b. 29 Dec 1644
John b. 14 Nov 1669
Lazarus b. 5 Feb 1730
John b. 17 May 1747
John b. 1785
James Riley Ives b. 15 May 1830
George Riley Ives b. 17 Nov 1852
Cora Amelia Ives b. 24 1882
Bethuel L. Grant b. 26 Apr 1920 (a twin)
Myself:Mary (Grant) Morgan b. Dec. 1953