Joseph Ives (1647-1694)

Joseph Ives (2) was born 1647 New Haven, the son of William Ives. He married Mary Yale on Jan. 2, 1672 (first cousin of Elihu Yale for whom university named). Mary was born on Oct. 26, 1650 in New Haven and died in 1710 in North Haven. In a meeting of the New Haven court on Feb. 7, 1664, John Thomas, Samuel Cooke, Samuel Clark, and Joseph Ives (age 16 at the time) “were complained of by Edward Preston for disorders in ye meeting on ye lords day; They were dismissed with a serious admonition & told that they should suspend ye punishment they thought of in hopes of amendment, but if ever they were took in like offense this would be remembered against them.”

Joseph first settled in North Haven as one of the first settlers, building a house “on the road twenty rods north of the house erected at the corner by Issac Thorpe (Thrope, 1892),” but then went north and was a co-founder of Wallingford, CT in 1670, He had signed the Wallingford Agreement in 1668 (see following post). Joseph was granted lot 10 but sold his interest to Goodman Foote and returned to North Haven in 1673 after marrying Mary Yale in 1672 to be near her family (Thomas and Mary Yale) who had returned from England in 1660 to settle in North Haven.

Unlike Wallingford, North Haven was most likely settled gradually and remained a part of New Haven. Ives (1928, p. 76) notes that the minutes of the New Haven town meetings in 1650 indicated that there were “more in towne then can well subsist together,” and there was a “neccessitie that some should remove.” Until a meeting house was built in North Haven, people met at the house of Joseph and Mary Ives for Sabbath worship. Jospeh was captain of the first train-band in the place. He is listed as a Proprietor of New Haven, CT, in the Year 1685 (NEGHSR, vol. 1, pp. 157–8). Joseph died Nov 17, 1694 in North Haven at age 47 and he is buried there. Joseph and Mary had ten children, all born in North Haven.

1. Joseph, born on Oct. 17, 1673, and died on Nov. 1, 1751.He was the first clerk of the parish society in 1716 and, according to Thrope (1892) was re-elected for 20 years. During this time he was part of a movement, led by his brother-in-law Nathaniel Yale, to dismiss the minister, Mr. Wetmore, for views too close to the Church of England. Joseph was captain of the first military company in 1718. In 1730, Joseph was appointed, along with Jonathan Mansfield, to lay out a highway from the Country Road to the East River. He married Sarah Ball (1679-after 1722) on Jan. 7, 1700 and had 8 children: Sarah, John (1701), Joseph (1703), Alling (1705), Stephen (1708), Enoch (1711), Elisha (1715), Dan (1721-1776).

2. Mary, born on March 18, 1674/5. She died in infancy.

3. Mary, born on Mar.17, 1675, and died on April 14, 1712. She married John Gilbert (1668-1741) on Jan. 21, 1691, in New Haven. She died on Apr. 14, 1712 in New Haven and is buried in the City Burying Ground, “Grove Street Cemetery”. They had 6 children: John (1692-1732), Sarah (1694-), Jonathan (1700-1758), Mary (1704-), Stephen (1708-1754), Miriam (1712-1799). After Mary died, John married Abigail Heaton, widow of Ebenezer Atwater on Nov. 27, 1712 and they had one child.

4. Samuel, born on Nov. 6, 1677, and died on Nov. 24, 1726. He married Ruth Atwater, on Jan 3, 1705. They had nine children: Mary (1708-after 1730), Lydia (1709-after 1750), Samuel (1711-1784), Ruth (1714-1781), Jonathan (1716-1792), Damaris (1718-1802), Phebe (1721-1725), David (1723-1753), John (1726-1812).

5. Martha, born on March 5, 1678, died Jan. 17, 1727, married Eleazer Stent (1680-) on Jan. 6, 1713 in Branford, CT. They had at least two children: Eleazer (1715-1772), Elizabeth (1717). Both born in Branford, CT.

6. Lazarus, born on Feb. 19, 1680, and died on Nov. 5, 1703. He had no children.

7. Thomas, born on Aug. 22, 1683, and died on May 5, 1767. He married Anne Thompson (1682-1751) on May 4, 1711 in New Haven. They had five children: Thomas (1712-1752), Anne (1717-1748), Rebecca (1719), Mehitabel (1720-1793), Elizabeth (1722-1791). All but Anne were born in New Haven and she was born in Waterbury, CT.

8. Abigail, born about 1685. She died in infancy.

9. John, born on Jan. 18, 1686/7. He died in 1690.

10. Ebenezer, born on April 6, 1692, and married Mary Atwater on Jan. 17, 1714. He died on July 7, 1759. Mary was a cousin of Ruth Atwater who married Samuel Ives. They had 10 children: Miriam (1722-1792), Mary (1717-1770), Abigail (1728-1773), Eunice (1732-1801), Lazarus (1715-1762), James (1718-1804), Abel (1723-1792), Ebenezer (1727-1759), Noah (1730-1800), Lydia (1733-1778). His sons, Lazarus and James, settled near Jonathan Ives in Hamden.

I will now stop and look at what was happening in New Haven during Joseph's time including the early histories of North Haven, Hampden, and Wallingford Connecticut before going on to Joseph's son, Samuel.

Comments

[Jim]

Have been doing research for some time on my mother's family's side who were Ives. My source is primarily from Arthur Coons' book which I recently procured a copy. Previously, all work was taken from oral accounts, and research books at the Hamden (CT) Historical Society. My family is from Hamden, New Haven and North Haven. My connection to William Ives is as follows: William > Joseph > Ebenezer > James > Elam > Lucius > Brainard > Ernest > Martha (my grandmother). I attended a family picnic at Elam's house, built in 1790 and which still stands in Mt Carmel, CT, when I was a child. Your blog site has provided further information and insight on some of my ancestors. I will certainly bookmark it and see what other insights might be provided. Regards, Jim

[Bill Ives]

Jim - Thanks for your comment. We had a copy of Arthur Coon's book in our family since my childhood and it fueled my early interest in family history. My ancesters stayed in the Hamden area until the late 1700s when they moved to the Springfield MA area. I would imagine that the cousins on our parallel lines knew each other well for several generations. Joseph - Samuel - Jonathan - Jeremiah (who moved). Do you have a picture of Elam's house?

[Jim]

Bill: No doubt the Ives' in the Hamden/New Haven/North Haven and surrounding towns knew each other or of each other. The area of Hamden that many settled in is called Mt. Carmel. The area were some had their homes and factories was called Ivesville. I do have a few pictures of Elam's house but they are photocopies that are quite dark. One in particular is of good quality from a Hamden history book and must have been taken in the 1800s or early 1900s before the roads were paved. The chimney from one of the Ives' factory can be seen on the other side of the house. The house and land had been purchased by a local water company and leased the property to my grandmother's sisters and family. Once they had all passed, I'm not sure who lived in the house. But over the past couple of years, many historical homes in CT that were on municipal land, including Elam's home, were going to be torn down or could be given away if the person would pay for the home to be moved to another location. It is my understanding that Elam' house is now owned by the Mt Carmel Historical Society. Also, the same book had a picture of Elam and wife Sarah (Hitchcock) Ives that was a real find. I can email both to you if I had your email address. Regards, Jim

[Bill Ives]

Jim - Thanks so much for the additional information. This is the type of conversation I have hoped to have with this blog. Please do send me the pictures and I will post them on the blog. My email is iveswilliam@comcast.net. I hope to get down to the New Haven area before too long and will look for the house. Bill

[Bill Ives]

Jim I looked into Ivesville on Google and found several links to Ivesville CT including this summary from Roadside Thoughts, “Our information shows that the community of Ivesville no longer exists. Although Ivesville is gone, we would like to be sure that it continues to be remembered by having a presence on our website. As we gather information about Ivesville, we'll be sure to add our findings here. While we don't have the exact location of the community of Ivesville, we believe that it would have been located within the boundaries of present-day New Haven County.” http://www.roadsidethoughts.com/03/c03_5061300.htm There was alo ton Ivesville AK which stil exists and some on Ives Corner CT which also is still around between Cheshire and Hamden. That may be the new name for Ivesville. Thansk again for bringing this to my attention.

[Jim]

Bill: It's true that Ivesville no longer exists as it did "back in the day" when all the Ives family lived and worked in that area. I am emailing you a brief history of Ivesville that I acquired at the Hamden Historical Society. The article's author is not stated and, therefore, unknown to me. Ives Corner is actually the corner of Whitney Avenue and Ives Street in Mt Carmel.
Regards, Jim

[Robin Ives]

Hi Jim, I am interested in purchasing Arthur Coon Ives book The Ives Family. Do you have access as to where I may find it? My Dad Robert is a Wallingford Ct. Ives.

Thanks for any information you can give me.

Robin Ives

[Bill Ives]

Robin

You might find it through the third party sellers on Amazon. You can also do a Google search on the book and that might turn up online used book sellers who have it. My family had a copy for years which I still have. Bill

[Dawn]

The book by Arthur Coon Ives can be purchased @ higginsonbooks.com

[elaine]

It would be interesting if you copied the pages of that book and put it on line for all to see and enjoy!

[sharon griffin]

I am a novice so I may not be asking an intelligent question. Just let me know if this is true.

In my family tree I have a Joseph Ives 1566-1627 Ashford Kent England married in 1586 in Suffolk England an Elizabeth Grannes 1564-? When I research Joseph Ives I am confronted with references to John Doel "the younger" Eppes Ives as his father. I am unable to find a connection as to how Ives and Eppes is connected. Where do I go to confirm this father as Eppes Ives accurate?

[Bill Ives]

Thanks for your question. Your Joseph Ives is likely not related to the one above as his father, William Ives, did not come from Kent. To answer your question you would try to find the relative parish records in England. Sometimes the Mormons can be a source for these parish records.