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April 07, 2007

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BJ Peters

First I have to say you've made me rethink the usefulness of blogs. I'd always wondered why someone would think the world would be interested in what seemed to me to be online diaries or journals. What an incredible genealogical resource!

I am related to many of the New Haven families, being descended from two of Christopher Todd's sons through both of my 2nd great grandparents, they being Todd cousins. My New Haven ancestors include Theophilus Eaton, Nathaniel Turner, Christopher Todd, Thomas Yale, William Ives, David Atwater, John Bishop, and others.

I see your mention of Nathaniel Turner's activities regarding trade on the Delaware. Above you state, "In the same year he purchased the large tract of land in New Jersey on Delaware Bay along with the current site of Philadelphia in what turned out to be an ill fated venture for the merchants of New Haven due to resistance by the Dutch and Swedish neighbors." For those who live for details, I'll provide a link to a scan of the book, "The Swedish Settlements on the Delaware: Their History and Relation to the Indians, Dutch and English 1638-1664", Vol.1, by Amandus Johnson, PhD, Pub. 1911 by D. Appleton, Agents. To read the scanned pages go to http://books.google.com/books?id=99A1AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA208&dq=%22nathaniel+turner%22+delaware . I was fascinated when I fell upon this as I live in Kent County, Delaware, abt. an hour's drive from Ft. Christina.

Keep up your incredible work on the net. What a wealth of information on our ancestors!
Eliz. J. "BJ" Peters

Prof. Rasah

Said in "Proceedings in Lynn,Massachusetts, June 17, 1879, Being the Two Hundred and Fiftieth Anniversary of The Settlement..." By Cyrus M. Tracy and By James R. Newhall. (1880):
"In the New Haven colony were some of the most active and worthy men in the whole country; but yet she was not prosperous. And it was in the endeavor to amend her fortunes that some of her principal people joined their means, and purchased a vessel of a hundred and fifty tons, hoping to open a profitable foreign trade. The vessel was put under command of Captain Lamberton, and four or five of the men 'of chief note and worth,' among them Captain Turner, sailed for England, with high expectations, and amid the hopeful farewells of a large concourse. The vessel passed down to the Sound, and out of sight; and that was the last ever seen of her or any one on board. Another season came round and still 'New Haven's heart was sad.' It was in January, 1647, that the unfortunate vessel sailed, her way being cut through the ice. The next June, after a great thunder storm, the people were startled by the appearance of what has ever since been known as 'the phantom ship.' There appeared in the air, coming up from the mouth of the harbor, a vessel which many of the spectators declared was an exact image of the missing one, and which gradually faded away and disappeared."

Bill Ives

Prof. Rasah Thanks so much for sharing this comment. I used to live near the land that Nathaniel Turner owned in Lynn. It is nice to see the city recognize him much later. Bill

Prof. Rasah

Sorry, Bill Ives, I'm probably one of the last who recognizes the past. That's because I was always obsessed with my region's history, though getting information about it was really hard until recently.

I work at City Hall, and it was to my luck that I found a book (which is one of ONLY FIVE COPIES) that held more detailed knowledge than I could ever have hoped. So know I'm working tirelessly to put the info onto a digital log on the Internet. (It's at http://profrasah.deviantart.com if you want to look, just check under "Journal.")

So far, I've been given a rave response by my fellow deviants (artists) and got a friend hooked on our shared city history. But that's why I'm republishing these two-hundred-year-old books online, so I can spark new interests.

Bill Ives

No need to apologize. I appreciate your additions. Bill

Thomas P. Turner


I am a direct descended of
Nathaniel Turner. Was so happy
to see all the information
you have here.
My brothers and I have researched
all of this (1970's) by traveling to
Connecticut, New York and other
places that the information that
we gather sent us. My one
brother has travel to England
also, but did not find any info
about Margaret Leachland suppose ably Nathaniel wife.

I would like to find out where
you found this information about
their children. We thought that
all children were born here in
America.

Also and other information that
you may have pertaining to
where he may have lived in England, anything would be
greatly appreciated.


The e-mail address is my
wife.

Bill  Ives

Thomas

Thanks for your interest. It has been a while but I likely got the information on his children from two sources.

Jacobus, Donald Lines, Families of Ancient New Haven, vols. 1-9., Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, 1923.

Vital Records of New Haven 1649-1850, Hartford: The Connecticut Society of the Founders and Patriots of America, 1917.

I also looked at:

Lambert, Edward R., History of the Colony of New Haven, Hitchcock and Strafford, New Haven, 1838.

Levermore, Charles H., The Republic of New Haven, Kennikat Press, Port Washington, NY, 1886.

Calder, Isabel MacBeath, The New Haven Colony (New Haven: Yale University Press, 1936)

I do not know any more about him in England that what is in the blog. Thanks, Bill

Albert Fox Jr.

I am a descendant of Capt. Nathaniel Turner and his son Isaac Turner . My mother's name was Ethel Turner Fox (born 1903) I am very interested in learning more about the Turner family. To share infomation please send me an e mail and I will respond as soon as possible.
Thank
Albert Fox

Thomas P Turner

To Albert Fox All I know that
would pertain to you is that
Isaac Turner married(1668)Mary Todd and they had twin boys
Isaac and Nathaniel born 1669
they had another son Joseph
born (1672) and a daughter Mary
born (1674). Isaac is our line
if Isaac is your line I could
give you more information.
But some place the line splits.
I do not see a Ethel Turner born 1903 in our line.
Thomas P Turner

Bill  Ives

Thomas - Thanks so much for your addition. Getting comments like yours is one reason I started the blog - to learn from others. Bill

Thomas P. Turner

My(Thomas P Turner) grandfather came to America
in 1862 born in England. His
name was John Henry Cooper.
I see that some of your ancestors
has this last name. So I am
wondering if you could be related
to my grandfather. If so I would
like to have any information you
may have.

Also I have been looking to no
avail to the meaning of the word
Freeman can you help with that?

bill  Ives

Thomas - my Cooper relative came to New haven in the early 1600s so are not likely related unless your grandfather had American relatives. All that I know about the Coopers and Turners are in the blog. I do not know about the origins on the word freeman. Sorry I cannot help further but you might look at the resources lists on the blog. Bill

Hillary Maurer

This is so exciting it find other info that people have researched about our shared ancestors. I have just started an in-depth research on my own family tree.
I was excited to find something of note was recorded about my great (11 times)grandfather Nathaniel Turner, same as most people who have commented on this. I'm related through Nathaniel and Margaret's daughter Rebecca. I'm also trying to find out about the Mix family because Rebecca married one.
Thank you so much for putting all that info on here for others to discover. I never thought my family had come to America so early.

bill  Ives

Hillary

Thanks for your comment. It is responses like yours that make this worthwhile. Bill

UGG Australia

I have just started an in-depth research on my own family tree.
I was excited to find something of note was recorded about my great (11 times)grandfather Nathaniel Turner, same as most people who have commented on this. I'm related through Nathaniel and Margaret's daughter Rebecca. I'm also trying to find out about the Mix family because Rebecca married one.
Thank you so much for putting all that info on here for others to discover. I never thought my family had come to America so early.

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